Comcast: What is “Customer Service”?

Posted by mitch on February 07, 2012
business, productivity

For the last four years, I’ve been a happy business Comcast Internet customer. I just have Internet and voice with Comcast; no TV. I have 5 static IP addresses, and until earlier this month, Comcast has been rock solid with only a few minutes of downtime here and there. I am an outlier when I say that I love US Airways and I love Comcast. I don’t know anyone else who goes around saying stuff like that. In some areas, you might get hanged.

In January, I decided I wanted more speed, but I debated–should I upgrade to 105 Mbit down/20 Mbit up (about $380/mo) or 50/10 (about $190/mo)? I talked to the Comcast sales rep on Jan 4th and she suggested trying the 50/10 and see how it goes. So I said let’s do it. My install window was set for 3p-5p on Friday, Jan 6th, since they needed to upgrade my modem.

On Jan 6th, at 4:50pm, a Comcast tech knocked on the door. “If this goes well, I’ll be out of here in 20 minutes.”

The Comcast tech was a great guy, I really liked him. However, he was hanging out in my network closet until 9:30pm that night. My girlfriend asked if she should clean up the guest room so he could spend the night.

Why was he at my house so long? The initial modem configuration was a bit tricky to make sure my static IP addresses got moved to the new modem. This took a few minutes. After that, he wasn’t getting the speed that I was supposed to get–about 1 Mbit/s up. He replaced the modem. He replaced the line to the street. He called tech support several times. He eventually gave up and went home. The next day he called me and said there was some kind of signal interference issue in my block and that it would take a few days but it would get solved. I really liked this guy and I really liked Comcast, so I was easy going about it and ran SpeedTest.net on a regular basis. A few days later, around Jan 10th, the problem was fixed and everything was good. I was a happy Comcast customer.

I didn’t push the SLA issue with Comcast, but one of the reasons that the business Internet is twice as expensive as residential is that there is a shorter SLA. I work at home when I am not on the road and I require working Internet access. I initially wired my closet for both Verizon and Comcast, but never felt I needed to add Verizon–Comcast has been that solid. I am not sure what constitutes an SLA breach in this case, but let’s be honest, I couldn’t upload 500 MB files during this time–pushing large files to my co-lo in Texas would eventually fail. If I had a major deadline that needed this kind of activity, I would have been toast. But I didn’t and I liked Comcast, so I let it slide.

On Feb 2nd at 10:45 am, my Internet connection died. At 10:50 it was still down. I called the business support line and got a tech window of 1pm to 3pm. I noted to the woman on the phone that this was pushing the boundaries of the 4 hr SLA. She said it was all she could do. She might as well have been a United Airlines employee.

Around 2pm, a tech showed up. “Oh man, static IPs… I am not too good with those!” (paraphrased). He was a really nice guy, but not sufficiently trained for business Comcast deployments with static IPs. However, he knew this and so he called a co-worker who also came over. These two guys and a third guy on the phone spent 90 minutes in my house pondering the problem. The guy on the phone realized that my old modem had been recently deployed across town at a cafe with my configuration data in it. Once they realized that, they were embarrassed, apologetic, and noted that this happens constantly. What kind of business is Comcast running? One of the techs mentioned that they often deploy DVRs that are “erased” “refurbs” with old people’s personal data and recordings on them.

At this point I was losing my patience. My connection had been down for 5.5 hours. I had Comcast guys in my house for a total of 6 hours on multiple days with a total of 11 hours of downtime for what should have been a 10 minute operation. Comcast was sending out guys who were unqualified to work on my account and being very liberal with my time, patience, and SLA.

So after the Comcast techs left, I told @comcastcares on Twitter what I thought. @comcastwill was very active and responsive and indicated a “local leader” would get in touch.

Today, five days later on Feb 7th, I asked @comcastwill if there was any update. He indicated that Comcast had been trying to email me at my @comcast.net address. Why not email the address where my bill goes? Who knows? I have never read my @comcast.net address and have no intention of doing so now. @comcastwill fixed this and shortly thereafter I received an email from “Sharon” asking me to call her.

I had a few minutes this afternoon before a conference call and rang Sharon from “The Executive Office of Comcast” (their words). She said that Comcast was very sorry and would like to offer me a credit on my account for all the aggravation for taking my Internet connection down due to their own negligence.

Comcast reached deep into their pockets, did some soul searching, and concluded that this hassle caused by my desire to give them more money was worth about…. $6.

I literally laughed. “Why wouldn’t I switch to RCN right now?” In this area, I can pick between TWO cable companies as well as Verizon. She said, “I can credit you up to $20 but that’s all I can do.”

Sure I had short patience left for Comcast, but this was absolutely infuriating. I asked @comcastwill on Twitter, “Why did you guys waste my time for $6?”

Remember, the worst part about this is that it was self-inflicted. I decided to give Comcast more money, they botched it, and then offer me a credit of $6. If I keep this level of service with Comcast for four years, as I have for the last four years, that is $10,560 to Comcast. And I don’t even buy TV from them. Who made the assessment that a $6 credit is appropriate? Who thought to themselves, “If I were in this situation and the vendor offered me SIX DOLLARS–less than the price of a QP with Cheese meal at McDonald’s–I would be satisfied?” Isn’t Comcast supposed to be better than this? Aren’t they the model for customer service on Twitter?

I know sometimes things go wrong. I make my living designing and building technology products for medium and large businesses. Some of my customers pay a small amount of money ($20k) and some pay a lot more. I’ve been embarrassed when customers call with problems. That’s why I didn’t give the tech or Comcast any crap with the issues on the upgrade. But there is a point at which mistakes are no longer mistakes and instead are pure incompetence. What exactly is the process for wiping modems at Comcast? Apparently there isn’t any. Business, especially big business, requires process to ensure proper execution. Business also requires handling the exceptional cases when the vendor drops the ball and has to make it right. I cannot imagine taking a $6 discount to any of my customers.

I want a working Internet connection and I prefer it to be with Comcast. But I also want to be treated with respect. My consulting rate is a little higher than $1 per hour. But why turn this into a credit game? Get creative. Send me a Nordstrom, Amazon, or an Apple gift card. Send me a “Get Well Soon” bouquet for my Internet connection. Or call me, admit that you completely screwed up my upgrade, and have an actual conservation with me about it–find out the whole story before deciding “$6 and if he pukes on it, $20″. Don’t try to slice and dice what my time or Internet connection is worth. Because to me, it’s worth a lot more than anything that Comcast could reasonably offer.

Although this post focuses on the $6, the inhuman hand-off to an admin authorized to go to $20 but completely unaware of what went on really irks me too.

Update March 14, 2012: Someone from the “Comcast Executive office” called me yesterday and we chatted a bit. He said he would try to do a little bit more for me, but was very clear my contract doesn’t require Comcast to do anything. In any event, Comcast credited me an additional $103 + the bonus $20 + $7.11 (vs the $6 calculated above). I am glad the fellow called, apologized, and treated me like a valued customer who merits some respect. It took a while but they got it done.

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  • http://twitter.com/mingramjr Michael Ingram Jr

    $6 credit is a slap in the face. That clearly shows you how Comcast values you as a customer. 

  • http://twitter.com/StefanDidak StefanDidak

    Wow. Simple Wow…

    Let me start by saying something I’ve been saying for a very long time. The so-called “broadband” and internet in the US sucks. Really, it does. Business or consumer, it doesn’t really matter at all. Heck, if this happened with my business cable in Holland they would refund the entire month and with the business DSL they would be so apologetic as to cover the remainder of the entire year for something like this happening. Not to mention, the cost here for 100+ mbps being 4 to 8 times higher and service levels being a joke!

    Everyone has been telling me I should get Comcast Business Cable for my stuff. I had my doubts. Somehow everything about Comcast (including the crazy stupid f’ed-up US monopolistic pricing of what they dare call “broadband”) rubbed me the wrong way. Heck, I’d pay for Verizon FIOS if it was within the realm of possibilities but certainly had no intention of paying the insane amounts for Comcast Business Cable Internet and your recent experiences outline exactly what I had expected… call it a gut feeling. Heck, at this point I guess it means Comcast actually DID meet my expectations as how their business services are run and just how well they take care of over-paying cut-throat prices they require for it.

    You know, I might suspect the techs spend that much time at your place because they needed a few extra hours to drool over the office setup and then another hour to clean up the mess they made so you wouldn’t notice the drool on the floor. :-) I wonder how many people are going to “get it”, though. My experience is that if I bring up the really piss-poor situation about “broadband” in the US, about half the people I talk to tell me that they have the greatest internet on earth and that I should inquire about “getting a T1 line”. Makes me want to slap them up the head or kick them in the balls for not having a darn clue what speed T1 actually is and how I’ve not suffered T1 speeds for over 17 years. I bet those morons who say those things would think that the service you got from Comcast is actually “pretty neat” and “cool”. Grrrrr.Other than that, you’re damn right on the money there… at some point it doesn’t matter how nice the techs are they send out, it doesn’t matter that they try to do what is within their abilities, the company as a whole just completely FAILS in an epic way because of the way they deal with problems of this kind and how they pony up to not being able to provide what they contractually agreed on.I do, however, feel very much that my decision not to waste good money on Comcast Business was a good gut feeling. Heck, I would sooner MOVE to a Verizon FIOS area than I would spending more money on a company that is so lame that they INSULT their business customers in the way they did. If I want cheap insults I’ll shop at Wal-Mart, ok! :-) – Stefan

  • http://www.biscade.com/ Mitch Haile

    Before I sold my last company last year, I was paying $875/mo for 6 MBit symmetrical in Santa Clara (microwave dish). I actually prefer Comcast Business in some ways to dealing with Covad. But when Covad removed the dish from our building by accident (seriously guys…), they were serious about stepping up and making it right. We also had a landline T-1 that was a horrible mess to deal with, but that’s another story.

    I would have to buy a T-1 or something from Verizon. The RCN guys who have come to my house to pitch switching from Comcast are downright creepy. I don’t want them in my house.

    If I didn’t have Verizon Mifi for a backup, I would have been screwed that day. As it was I had to shuffle meetings and my day so I could be around for Comcast to come back out. It wasn’t how I planned to spend the day and I value my time highly.

  • http://brycv.com/ Bryan Vyhmeister

    That’s absolutely ludicrous. The responsible thing to do is to take responsibility. I remember a time when I had an employee who made some comments to a customer about getting a Mac because her Windows computer was very slow. The customer was furious and wanted to quit our internet service. I called the customer and sincerely apologized and said we would do whatever needed to be done to take care of it for her. She was satisfied and was a loyal customer for years after that. So loyal that she sent all her friends, family, and anyone she talked to about internet to us. 

    The money is never the real issue. The problem is a company not taking any real responsibility for their actions. Comcast seems to be determined to stay that “lousy cable company” even for their potentially most loyal and lucrative business customers.

  • http://twitter.com/klein2 Dennis Klein

    So, today is Jan 10th – I wonder what happened to the line – does it work now?

    I also had my “experiences” with Vodafone (giving me a credit of 70€ for not delivering a static IP on the day I needed it) and also with Deutsche Telekom here in Germany who was not able to solve line issues for over 2 years (in the end a switch to another rate worked, because it’s using another DNS range…). What I want to say: it’s not limited to the US – or Comcast. I hear this every now and then about ANY ISP :)

  • Yuqideng

    is your Comcast Cable recovered after such a long time?

    i am interesting in what kinds of the Response ms you got from the Cable. Can image once everything is done, the only thing can complain will be not enough Harddisk Space and somebody else’s server is not fast enough.

  • http://www.biscade.com/ Mitch Haile

    Yes, it was only out a few hours on two different days.  My main complaint is that the 2nd outage should not have happened and the way Comcast handled it afterwards was crap.

    Ping times are extremely low.  There is a major Comcast data center about 4 miles from my house, and I suspect that’s where my Internet connection ends up.

    As you allude to, it’s awesome when the other server is as fast as my connection.  Apple does a good job at this; few others do.  I don’t expect I will go to 100 mbit for a while.  I really wanted fast uploads, and it is hugely awesome to have 10 mbit up.

  • http://twitter.com/duffc D U F F

    I would get FiOS if it’s available.  Faster speeds than the ones you mentioned at a cheaper price.

  • http://www.biscade.com/ Mitch Haile

    Comcast charges 50% of these prices for residential rates with a longer SLA.

  • Dave Nichols

    Mitch,

    That is completely rubbish what they offered you… $6.

    At my last place of business I set up a wireless link, if I didn’t get a 97% uptime (not counting scheduled maintenance) for the month they didn’t charge me. Same for speeds, if it fell too low I could argue it should be hirer, a tech would come out and check the gear and if he agreed it was slower than it should be to his gear he would organise a reduction in the monthly fee.